Cannonball 4-1-0
Giantkiller 3-2-0
Dane 3-2-0
Super Skillets 3-2-0
Naked Gnomes 3-2-0
Stoke 2-3-0
Belenos' Bitches 1-4-0
Teh Bears (Banne) 1-4-0

Highlights (and lowlights) 0f the week:

Cannonball suffers his first loss....Super Skillets edge him 64-62
Giantkiller puts 115 points on the board against the hapless Belenos
The Naked Gnomes (the unmanaged filler team) wtfpwned Banne
Banne only manages 22 points with his mostly all Bears (but all sucky) team.

Next weeks schedule features the much anticipated Cannonball vs Dane matchup.

**edit for some fat finger typos**

So.

stfu Niz!! And I look forward to the match up vs Cannonball... BBQ man is going down!

Whatever Dane you STFU or you will get my Fantasy Football in your anus.

by his fantasy football, he means his....

nevermind.

And I really, really dont care that I lost in FF after that game. That was fucking awesome!!!

Are the Bears that good? Or are the Cardinals that bad?

Experience tells me it's more of the latter...time will tell for sure...

Are the Bears that good? Or are the Cardinals that bad?

Experience tells me it's more of the latter...time will tell for sure...

Hmmmm wins over:

Green Bay
Detroit
Minnesota
Seattle
Buffalo
Arizona

With maybe the exception of the Seaturds, not exaclty the top tier of NFL competition there....

And the rest of the schedule......

Sun, Oct 29 San Francisco
Sun, Nov 5 Miami
Sun, Nov 12 at NY Giants
Sun, Nov 19 at NY Jets
Sun, Nov 26 at New England
Sun, Dec 3 Minnesota
Mon, Dec 11 at St. Louis
Sun, Dec 17 Tampa Bay
Sun, Dec 24 at Detroit
Sun, Dec 31 Green Bay


How did a playoff team get this easy of a Mickey Mouse schedule?

Ready? Here we go:

Chicago sucks at everything and should be bombed off the planet.

Hmmmm wins over:

Green Bay
Detroit
Minnesota
Seattle
Buffalo
Arizona

With maybe the exception of the Seaturds, not exaclty the top tier of NFL competition there....

Minnesota is actually been playing decent this year too. They tend to be a play or two away from winning most of their games....so the Bears have two wins against at least average opponents.

Buffalo might prove to be one too....never know!

Added to the above post....

Bacon is added?

Sun, Oct 29 San Francisco
Sun, Nov 5 Miami
Sun, Nov 12 at NY Giants
Sun, Nov 19 at NY Jets
Sun, Nov 26 at New England
Sun, Dec 3 Minnesota
Mon, Dec 11 at St. Louis
Sun, Dec 17 Tampa Bay
Sun, Dec 24 at Detroit
Sun, Dec 31 Green Bay

San Fran....yeah, crappy team.

Miami was supposed to be good....lot of people had them as the surprise team so at the start of the season, that was a bigger matchup.

The Giants are a tough team.

The Jets, while they lose, play hard.

New England, while struggling, still owns quite a few Super Bowl rings this decade, and the end of November is when they shine.

Minnesota's a division game, you can't blame them for their division sucking.

St Louis is 4-2 and nipping at the defending NFC Champion's heels for the West.

Tampa Bay sucks, but again...they were SUPPOSED to be good this year.

Detroit and Green Bay....see my comments about Minnesota.

It's not the hardest schedule in the world, but at the start of the season it wasn't the massive cupcake schedule it looks like now.

Minnesota almost beat them one or two plays away. Also St Lous, New England, and the Giants will give them a good game.

Umm...yeah we played teams we were suppose to beat, and we fucking dominated them. We outscored those first five games 156 - 36. Thats nuts! Also, last night, we just had a horrid game, and we won. I will place a wager against anyone that wants to take it, that the bears will win the Super Bowl this year.

Real stuff on the line here. If anyone wants to take this bet, and decides to pony up something, I will send them this: Tastes of Chicago Package, (http://www.tastesofchicago.com/product/388/40) If the Bears dont win the Bowl.

Anyone wanna take this bet? Cmon. Scared?

I'm not sure who will emerge to be the NFC Superbowl representative (prob. Seattle or Philly) but I will just about guarantee that neither Chicago or New Orleans, while good teams, are anywhere near as good as their record makes you believe.....

Bears winning the Super Bowl? Ah what the hell...

If the Bears win, I'll send you a gift card to Best Buy or some such.

If not, I expect my food.

I'm not sure who will emerge to be the NFC Superbowl representative (prob. Seattle or Philly) but I will just about bet anything neither Chicago or New Orleans, while good teams, are anywhere near as good as their record makes you believe.....

The Bears have a defense, and that wins championships as the cliche goes.

What they lack is experience, same with the Saints. They're not used to "the show", so I expect they'll make some doofus, cardinal-esque screw-ups in the playoffs if they face a veteran playoff team (which the most certainly will in the Super Bowl even if they luck out in the NFC playoffs).

The stakes are STFU no one cares.

I typically stay away from betting on sporting events. I will just allow you the honor of rubbing it in my face if the Bears do win.

I typically stay away from betting on sporting events. I will just allow you the honor of rubbing it in my face if the Bears do win.

Do it for the cheesecake stoke! Do it for the cheesecake!!

No Experience? Our entire ankle grabbing, suck-ass team, including that sheep molesting homo Rex were in the playoffs last year in that OMGWTFBBQPWNING by the PANTHERS!


fixed.

The NFC Championship and the Super Bowl are levels of magnitude beyond what the Bears are used to. If Philly or the Seachickens or the Carolina Panties make it that far, they'll most likely beat the Bears.

The Bears offense is good, for a Bears team. They're just slightly above average compared to the good defenses in the league. New York, Philadelphia, New Orleans, Dallas, Atlanta, Carolina, St. Louis and Seattle have much, much better offenses than Chicago. While Chicago's defense is impressive, against any of those teams you make one mistake and it's a touchdown. Conversely, Chicago doesn't make big plays on offense as much as it lucks into them. Watch those other teams play and you'll see big plays being made in spite of excellent defense, not because nobody bothered to cover someone or because the defender fell down.

Hard to base things off of six games, but Rex has not shown he's a true playoff WINNING QB. While the Ravens proved you don't need a QB to win a Super Bowl, the Bears defense is not the perfect storm that the Ravens were.

I have to agree with Silver.

Made it to the playoffs is not the same as "winning in the playoffs". The Bears are not veteran enough to get the nod to go to the Super Bowl at this point. Now, every other team that's been regulars in the playoffs and knows how to win might not make it...not the way to bet at this point, but it's possible.

The Bears not playing well on national television is what I'm talking about. To win the Super Bowl, you have to win 3 (at least) nationally televised games. If they play that hideously on national TV versus the CARDINALS....yeah, not boding real well. You can't rely on veteran teams who have a culture of winning self-destructing like that, especially in January.

Guess we'll see if I'm dining on cheesecake and ribs in January/February or if you've got a new toy from somewhere.

Since you are so confident about winning your cheesecake, you should send Banne a Xbox 360 if he wins. Besides, the odds are with you on this one...

And by the way, Im staying the fuck out of this one. You guys are just jaded cause your teams suck this year.

Right now I dont consider a 4 and 2 record "sucking"....

Sure the Kitties got their asses handed to them by Michael Prick and then literally GAVE one to the Vikings giftwrapped.....but.... who plays Baltimore AT Baltimore - the leagues supposedly #2 defense - and puts up over 400 yards of offense? Not just anyteam in the NFL.... and I'd really like to see the cubbies trying to keep up with that Soup Eating McNabb.

Thw cubbies may be decent but I still say wait til the thye play a team that **IS** good and not **SUPPOSED TO BE** good.

Well Stoke, looking at the cream puffs they have on their schedule and how bad the rest of the NFC North is...at this point it's pretty likely they're going to the playoffs at least unless they have a COMPLETE meltdown.

The question is going to be who are they likely to face?

Any of the four teams in the NFC East are poised to go. I'd give the Bears the nod over Washington and Dallas, but Philly and New York have enough between them to beat the Bears. Washington, depending on which team shows up, would either decimate the Bears or lose by at least forty. Dallas...meh, assuming they get Ricky Manning Jr. back, I think the Bears defense can shut down the Cowboys...Drew isn't that great if he's pressured (unlike a certain McQuarterback who uses pressure to score touchdowns).

NFC North...meh, Minnesota MIGHT go, but first year under that coach with a new QB and a whole slew of other newbies...I'd expect the Bears to win that one.

NFC South is interesting. The Atlanta Vicks are looking very "meh", and it's pretty well documented that Vick can't beat an average defense with his arm alone. The Saints, on the other hand....Brees has been there, Reggie Bush while still a rookie is quite familiar with national attention. That'd be a tough call. The Panties are like the Redskins...they'll either blow you out or play like a high school prep team.

The NFC West is the Seachickens and the Rams. I'd say the Bears should be able to handle the Rams, but the Seachickens are the defending NFC champions for a reason.

The key thing to bear (pun intended) in mind while you're preparing my "Tastes of Chicago" package is that championships are not won in September, October or November. Decemeber and January is when the winner is decided.

The Vikings QB isn't new, Brad Johnson been in the league something like 14 years and he played a good chunk of last year for the Vikes. They do have offensive problems tho but have a pretty decent offense. They will however lose to the Bears in Soldiers Field because its cold there and despite being up north the Vikings are used to indoor playing.

I don't see the Seahawks giving the Bears trouble... Hawks are having line troubles and Alexander might not be what he was last year with his injury problems.

I would say the two teams to worry about are the Giants and the Eagles, with maybe the Vikes and the Saints in position to upset. Saints are playing well this year afterall Bush and Brees have done something for that team.

The Ari game got out of hand because Grossman is starting to believe the hype and trying to make too many big plays, while Leinart showed that he should have been the no 1 pick of the draft all on the same night.

I don't know about Leinart proving he should have been number one, Bush is playing like a top draft pick and Vince Young, for a rookie, is playing wonderfully. Leinart should have been two or three for sure though.

What I mean by "the Vikings QB is new" is that he's new to the system that Childress brought with him. It's not really how the Vikings played before (for reference, consult Mark Brunell who's a good veteran QB in a new system this year....hot and cold), and he's not got that great of a supporting cast.

Philly and New York...yeah, they can beat any team, in any venue, at any time. I think those two teams are really the elite of the NFC at the moment (Granted, they're both also capable of laying enormous eggs every now and again). They have off days, but those two are truly complete teams. The Bears....eh, once their RB matures and Grossman understands the limits of his abilities and plays within them...they'll be there too.

Some quotes from the football guys on the Sports Illustrated site this week:

Don Banks:
That unidentified NFC juggernaut gaining ground in the rearview mirror is the Carolina Panthers, winners of four in a row since kicker John Kasay single-leggedly kept their season alive in Week 3 at Tampa Bay. ...........don't do something silly and let John Fox's team slip off your radar screen

Dr. Z
Without Steve Smith, 0-2. With him, 4-0. Best of all, he makes me feel a little better about my Super Bowl winner, which will beat, uh, can't really remember the AFC team I picked.

Bush is doing ok , Young is doing pretty badly in my opinion but just could be the poor Titans team in general. Leinart actually made the Arizona line look better with his quick releases and mobility. Maybe it's a little early to say he is going to be one of the best but he is certainly better than Mario Williams and I would say on par with Young and Bush.

I am pretty sure that Brad Johnson has run the same kind of offense that Childress is using afterall they run the West Coast offense in Tampa Bay where Brad was before he came to the Vikings.

Vince Young beat the Redskins in only his 3rd start in his rookie...that's not bad. He was bad against the Cowboys, but that was his first start. He went toe-to-toe with the Colts and nearly won.

That's not bad for a rookie. A while the offense Childress runs is West Coast-esque, it's not really a West Coast offense and the little differences are enough compared to "the Gross" who's been in that system for a couple years now (albeit some of it from a stretcher).

uhhh please dont refer to the Bears as "the cubbies". That denotes an entire lack of respect that is punishable by death. No team other than "the cubs" should ever be refered to as "the cubbies"...its just not right man...its just not right.

Fuck the Bears and the Damn cubs... both teams of extreme suck.

From this point on, All Chicago sports teams will be referred to as "The Cubbies"....baseball, football, basketball, hockey, Lacrosse, golf, badminton......they are all The Cubbies.......

Yay... cubbies.

Whats different besides Childress emphasizing the run? Brad is a ball control qb which is what the west coast is mainly about which makes him suited for the west coast offense which he is familiar with. I think the main problem with the Vikes is that the running game is inconsistent, plus the receivers dropping big play balls making the offense anemic.

I don't think Young made that game against Colts looks to me like the defense did holding Manning and co. a lot fewer points than they are used to. I'm not saying Young is horrible i am just saying he is playing badly, and that Leinart is playing better.

Johnson never really struck me as a West Coast kind of QB. He always seemed to be more the big arm "loosen up the defense so the run works better" kind of QB. Never really saw him as the quick-strike, high-velocity passer that the West Coast offense actually requires.

He's more like Peyton than Donovan, in other words. Granted, Donovan can throw the ball 40 yards downfield like it's nothing, but his passes tend to the more hyper-accurate style that the West Coast style demands. Granted, there's a reason he's the #1 rated passer thus far this season too....

West coast is about dumping off the ball to get short gains from what I know. Dumping off to full backs and tight ends giving them room to run , quick passes to the sidelines stuff like that. Which Brad is good at however they arent moving the ball on the run when they need it so Brad isn't looking as good.

I concur with my brother. Calling any chicago team the cubs (aside from the actual cubs...) is just bushleague and makes you look like a bigger douche than Niz. In fact, I will go as far to say that any team who refers to the bears as "the cubs" will lose all right to a taste of chicago package, as they have no respect for said city. This offer only null and void if your state has any city with a population of over 750,000, in which case, you can talk shit all you want. Besides, we dont make fun of your state stoke, just your oldness.

Shut Up little Cubby.

I concur with my brother. Calling any chicago team the cubs (aside from the actual cubs...) is just bushleague and makes you look like a bigger douche than Niz. In fact, I will go as far to say that any team who refers to the bears as "the cubs" will lose all right to a taste of chicago package, as they have no respect for said city. This offer only null and void if your state has any city with a population of over 750,000, in which case, you can talk shit all you want. Besides, we dont make fun of your state stoke, just your oldness.

Would you like some French Cries with that Whaaburger?

My, the Chicago Contingent can seem to dish it out but they get mighty defensive when a little bit is tossed back in their directions...

<3 Banne <3 Belenos.....

Its all in good fun (except when it comes to Niz, lawl). Me and Bele are just life long diehard Bears fans that enjoy arguing with others about NFL teams and stuff. We were born and raised this way. In fact all of us had little Sweetness jerseys when we were little (well maybe not my oldest brother, but I know he had a bears jersey when he was a wee little one), and the tradition continues with my nephew who has a little jersey, and my niece who has a bears cheerleading outfit. We start em young to be bears fans. We are the same way about the whitesox though, being south siders and all. Thats why we hate the whole "Cubbies" thing. My mom was raised a cubs fan, but my dad has converted her. Actually, one of the stipulations of my mom and dad getting married was that my grandpa had to take my dad to a cubs game, which is to this day still the only cubs game my dad has ever been to. Me, Ive never been to one, nor do I want to go to that deathtrap Wrigley Field. I suppose Ill go one day when they actually fix it so concrete wont fall on your head.

I got off topic here. Ohh yeah. Go Bears. Go Pathers (I want a rematch from last year in the playoffs). Fuck off Niz, go mind your own business/have some horrible social disease.

I predict you will get your wish. I see the Panthers wtfpwning the cu...uh bears in the NFC championship game. Sorry Silver, I just can't see your Iggles getting there.

I predict you will get your wish. I see the Panthers wtfpwning the cu...uh bears in the NFC championship game. Sorry Silver, I just can't see your Iggles getting there.

I'd bet on the NFC East representative (smart money says Iggles or G-Men) getting to the NFC championship more than I'd bet on the Carolina Pantywearers. Heck, I'd bet on the Seachickens doing a repeat before Carolina. :p

Only good thing about the Panthers is their cheerleaders are lesbians.

Silver, why arent you in our fantasy football league, btw?


Cause he's a little <insert your favorite phrase here> who originally said he would participate but then invoked some lame "I dont like Yahoo" excuse and refused to sign up......

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yahoo didn't want to acknowledge that I had an account, and I got sick of trying to deal with them. Blame Stoke for choosing a sub-par company to host the FF league.

And the Giants get off to slow starts is their problem, and the Eagles are having that issue too. The Giants get off to slower starts and generally have to play from behind, so that makes things complicated.

However, when a team starts off sluggish and slides into a well-oiled machine that starts racking up points as the game goes on (and the G-Men in the 4th quarter are insane), that's usually the sign of a very good team early in the season working out the kinks. Generally as a season progresses, they get better and better. Hence why all the analysts caution people against betting on teams that do well in September or October, since teams that are still working in new pieces will sometimes slip, but then are unstoppable come November and December when everything is clicking.

Hence why all the analysts caution people against betting on teams that do well in September or October, since teams that are still working in new pieces will sometimes slip, but then are unstoppable come November and December when everything is clicking.


This sounds exactly like........The Panthers! :yup:

This sounds exactly like........The Panthers! :yup:

No...it sounds exactly like the Steve Smiths. There is no other player on the Carolina team, or at least that's how they play.

Wrong.

That's true, you have Julius Peppers too.

1 good player per side of the ball = Carolina's franchise setup

Ouch...bad news for the football Cubbies...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2632109

Cowboys going all the way this year!

SHUT UP ARD! You have no room to speak. lol. Just kidding. But the cowboys have to go through Iggles and the E-Man. Good luck with that.

uhhh is that suppose to be the G-MEN you retarded fuck... jesus, I cant believe im related to you...

Ohh but silver, dude, Mike Brown hasnt played a full season for about the past 3 years now. Dude is made of glass lately. Its no big thing, we have some really good back ups on our D. Todd Johnson should take over for MB and do quite a good job. It sucks, and it hurts a little in our experience department, but still, you need to be able to get the ball off/not be picked by the best linebacker corps in the league to even get to our secondary. We will be just fine.

And Ardamir, the cowboys suck crow. really. they do. TO will destroy that team, just give it time. My words to him are, as always, "If at first you dont succeed, try, try again."
Usually I wouldnt say that about anybody, but that guy just really bothers me. Hes a dickwad piece of small testicle cancer. Yeah. I said it.

Sounds like someone is jealous that they didnt sign T.O...

OMG is Texas Fanboi and Chicago Fanboi at it. This isn't going to be pretty.

<Stoke backs carefully away from the oncoming carnage>

Nah, they're just going to have a sissy slap-fight and dance around each other like two primadonnas.

At least Ard can claim he's backing his team by emulating them, but we really expected better from Banne.....




Ok, no we didn't...but we expect better of Bears fans at least.

Ok, no we didn't...but we expect better of Bears fans at least.

No we don't.

Nah, they're just going to have a sissy slap-fight and dance around each other like two primadonnas.

Oh great...now I gotta carry that mental image around with me all day.....

All I can see is Banne in that sheet.....

Oh great...now I gotta carry that mental image around with me all day.....

All I can see is Banne in that sheet.....

Here ya go Stoke, something you'll probably like better...I know you missed it...well, you would have if you hadn't made it your desktop anyway....

Ah yes.... my Baller fix for the day....

Yep, and he's straight-up baller in that pic too.

That tie is HAWT!

Wow the gay-factor in this thread just went up 10,000 points with the last few posts. Nino, I think a restraining order is in line soon, cause one day you are gonna wake up with these two homos oggling you.

shit thatd be scary....stoke with his mullet and all...

Only 10,000 points? DAMNIT! We're gonna miss our quota Stoke!

And how do you know that Baller doesn't wake up next to Stoke as it is? o_O Do YOU know where Stoke goes in the evening? If so, Stoke, I'd recommend getting a restraining order against Banne.

On an unrelated note, I can think of much better looking people than Baller (yes, it's true...) in the Chicago area if I was ever inclined to go back there. :)

Exactly.

FOX now has Sideshow Bob picking games....

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/6079278

I love how any game on when the simpsons will be aired is "A terrible game" that you shouldn't watch and no pick is offered. :)

Hmm, so...Lets see here. Week 7: Chargers Lose (Chiefs), Panthers Lose (Tiggers), Ugles lose (to the resurgent bucs!).

good week off for the bears.

Raiders beat those "awesome" cardinals.

Houston beats Jacksonville.

Minnesota smacks the seaducks.

Upset City.

Oh and Cannonball lost to the Dane!! Not an upset but still die Cannon DIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need Jeremy Shockey to not play tonight in order for me to beat Giantkiller.

I need Jeremy Shockey to not play tonight in order for me to beat Giantkiller.

While he'll probably be on the field, there are no guarantees he will actually be playing when he's out there.

It is Jeremy Shockey after all.

true story

E. Manning will put up 36 points tonight FTW! I hope.

Yo CB! Check out that trade I proposed to you. Take it or die. (or let me know what you want for Gould).

Ha ha. I got Vick. Im set.

Wrong.

Stoke push those trades through so I can pick up some new peeps please=) I am bored and want to do something with my team. Hurry it up sucka!!

I think that is yahoo!'s policy, the 48 hour wait timer. I dunno if stoke can do anything about that.

I changed the "protest" time from 2 days to "no protest". I am assuming this will make all future trades happen instantly with no waiting period. I dont think it will speed these 2 pending trades up though.

Banne!!

Stop asking for Gould.... I AM not giving him up!!!

Yes you are.

As Commissioner, I have the power to stop Banne from making any more transactions of any type...waivers, trades, etc.

So.......

No Banne!!!

You should be able to accept the rejection, it's something you face all the time!! :lol:

"Im the commissioner, I have a small peepee! Im sooo fucking old! ILL BAN YOU!!!!" - Stoke

napolean complex much?

Stoke: Drunk, and on power this time!

Fuck with the commish and see what happens there little boy.

Fuck with the commish and see what happens there little boy.

That's right!!! Mess with the bull.... you get the horns.

God you two are so gay for eachother it hurts.

And yeah, I am messing with you stoke, do your worst. Kick me out of the league for all I care, then there are an uneven amount of teams.

try me.

ohh and if we take the professional sports model of bureaucracy, the players have more power than the commissioners.

God you two are so gay for eachother it hurts.

And yeah, I am messing with you stoke, do your worst. Kick me out of the league for all I care, then there are an uneven amount of teams.

try me.

ohh and if we take the professional sports model of bureaucracy, the players have more power than the commissioners.


Sigh.... another example of how members of the Chicago Contingent can dish things out but not take it... Poor Banne.... mess with him a bit and he gets all flustered and defensive.... :yup:

<Pats Banne on the head, gives him a cookie and sends him back to nappy time>

Sigh.... another example of how members of the Chicago Contingent can dish things out but not take it... Poor Banne.... mess with him a bit and he gets all flustered and defensive.... :yup:

<Pats Banne on the head, gives him a cookie and sends him back to nappy time>

...and a juice box too!! So there!

there not enough talk of tom tupa in these forums... TOM TUPA!!!

Omg Blue!!!

YAY 2nd!!!!!

3rd?

Football AND Baller....wow, get some bewbs in here and we've got an epic thread!

Yes!! After several pages of general suckiness....this thread has
STARTED TO DELIVER!

haha. Tom Tupa... nice. Good ole punters. That dude has got to be what, 40 something by now? shit.

And Stoke, you were the one threatening me you old bastard. Shouldnt you be out at your KKK meeting?

Banne...

go eat your cookie and STFU. :p
.......................

<3 banne :idhitit:

yeah well I fucking hate you.

and I will have some cookies and milk, cause I dont care who you are, or how old you are, cookies and milk are fucking delicious. I hate you.

Damn....you can cut the homo-erotic tension between Stoke and Banne with a knife...sheesh!

So here's a question for you, is Stoke robbing the cradle or is Banne robbing the grave?

Nothing to see here. Move along.

Wow this sounds like the Foley scandal.

Wow this sounds like the Foley scandal.

Now that you mention it....it does...

lol
Im over the age of consent, so he cant be robbing the cradle, and im not robbing the grave, im digging the hole and throwing him in.

And I wanna be a page in DC. HEheh, thatd be funny now. I love that transcript, it almost made me piss my pants to see the two random dudes on youtube re-enact it. Illl post it later, im too lazy to look for it now.

Dude, Silver. The Eagles RULE! wow! What a year for them! I thought they were the best team in the NFC?

When their defense doesn't blow chunks, yeah...they are and they'd clean the Bears clock 10 times out of 10. Problem is that the defense, and SS Michael Lewis in particular, are playing like they don't know what team they're on (for more evidence on the Michael Lewis point, look at the losses to the Giants, Saints and Bucs...who did they beat almost every single time for TDs and/or made key defensive errors?). While it's still a team sport and you can point to plenty of other errors, I don't think any other player on that team had as many crucial lapses in their first losses.

I'd still pick the Eagles over the Bears in the playoffs, but it won't matter since the Bears are going to get into the playoffs, probably with homefield, on the "strength" (or lack thereof) of their schedule while the Eagles actually play in a competitive division and will probably just miss a wild card (if they're even in contention). Still, the Bears are far too cocky for their actually mediocre offensive abilities, and I doubt they'll win the Super Bowl, so get your credit card ready there Mr. Banne.

I'd still take McNabb over Grossman, Westbrook over Jones, Stallworth and Brown over the Bears wideouts. Again, the difference between the Bears and the Eagles is simply the Bears defense gets off the field while Jim Johnson insists on wasting time with blitzes without ever seeming to realize that after 8 years, people have figured out that he blitzes every other down. /shrug

The Bears haven't really shown me anything other than they can beat teams they're supposed to beat. Kudos on being able to get that much right in the NFL, but they've not shown they're championship-caliber.

yeah 4 of the next 5 teams have winning records. Easy Sched for sure.

and we are 7-0.

Lets examine the Eagles Record of 4-4.
Game 1: Houston Texans - Win (youd better, they fucking suck)
Game 2: NY Giants - Loss (to a very good team, its allowable, it happens)
Game 3: San Fran - Win (another shit ass team that we dominated)
Game 4: Green Bay - Win (another crapfest team)
Game 5: Dallas - Win (A high emotion game for DMac, I personally think Dallas is overrated, but now they have ROMO!!! yay! As I speak, they are dominating the highly overrated Panters.)
Game 6: Saints - Loss (great team this year, but very very very beatable)
Game 7: BUCS - Loss (on a huge fieldgoal from the other endzone {well close enough} never should have came to that)
Game 8: Jags - Loss (Houston beat this team. enough said.)

Yeah. You guys are AWESOME against great teams. Youve beaten the Packers, San Fran, and Texans....big fucking WOOP. And you beat the Cowgirls. Congrats. You guys are the fucking best team in the league. These are the facts. We are 7-0.

The eagles have wins against teams with a combined record of: 11-17
The eagles have losses against teams with a combined record of: 16-3

seems like a pretty fucking average team to me.
FUCK! Our offense sucks. We only scored 41 points in the first half! WOW! WE SUCK ON OFFENSE! have you watched any of our fucking games? We dont BEAT teams we are supposed to, we fucking DESTROY them.

You did it against San Francisco. A Division I-A team could do much the same, so you get no credit for that. To date, Chicago has played no truly good offenses save Minnesota, and that was in their third game where teams are still in transition and the Bears "destroyed" them by 3. Yeah, you played Seattle but without Alexander and Hasselbeck isn't a good enough QB to win on his own.

Look at the Eagles, save today's wind-swept effort, that offense has been vicious. The Eagles lead the league in plays over 20+ yards, and they were doing it with people nobody had ever heard of either. This year the defense has been craptastic and that's how the Eagles manage to lose in the last seconds. While you throw the "you haven't watched any Bears games" around, you make it quite clear how ignorant you are about the Eagles.

For the remainder of the Bears schedule, there are two good teams (New England and New York Giants) with a few iffy teams. There's 4 "gimmie" games in there that the Bears would have to commit ritual suicide if they found a way to lose, but then again this is the team that had to rely on the Cardinals to lose a game for them so perhaps they shouldn't get too serious about winning them.

The Bears win by capitalizing on mistakes. That's a good system for the most part, but what happens when they meet a team that doesn't make mistakes (i.e. - the playoffs)? That's what sets apart the great teams from the merely good ones, and until the Bears play a few more opponents that don't just hand them the game, they're still haven't shown anything. They're a good team thus far into the year, but championships aren't won until January.

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The Bears schedule:

http://www.dessertworks.net/pics/cupcake.jpg

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this is what I think about the beagles record:
http://www.dogdoo.com/images/Honey.jpg

this is what I think about silver:
http://www.tliquest.net/ryan/misc-pictures/misc_funny/you_suck.jpeg

Panthers officially suck.

Nothing like football to make you want to stab people in the face.

Panthers officially suck.

This is not news Stoke. :) However, as the Colts prove year after year, a team's record bears no relation to team ability and/or playoff success. Last year's Super Bowl champs (who choked against OAKLAND) barely made the playoffs last year, yet with exception of the Colts won their playoff games quite handily.

So Banne can tout how good the Bears are doing at the mid-point of the season, and how they'll win their division and probably end up with home field. They're still not the best team in the NFC, and certainly not the best team in the NFL. They're just a good team that's gotten some really lucky breaks this season (Starting with the fact that two of their division opponents are in the dumpster and another sporting a brand new coach, compared to the NFC South and East where 3 of the 4 teams are legitimate this year). Then again, the saying does go better lucky than good but eventually luck does run out in the long-term.

Oh and Banne, you forgot the golden rule:

http://www.argaste.com/img/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

Football pisses me off.

hehehe... Banne's special... lol

hehehe... Banne's special... lol

Hey, I wouldn't laugh too hard....you share the same genepool. ;)

Oh and Banne, you forgot the golden rule:

http://www.argaste.com/img/arguing_on_the_internet.jpg

Silver, you argue more than anyone I know online.

Silver, you argue more than anyone I know online.

But at least he knows the rules......

And when have I claimed to be anything other than a retard Niz? :p Does a NORMAL person do the things I do on a constant basis? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?

There's a difference between being a retard and reveling in this fact as you get license to throw things randomly at people and SCREAM REALLY LOUD (a la Peter in Family Guy) and then there's people who are retarded and don't even realize it...these are the people who are sad.

Banne makes everyone sad. :( /cry

LOL.... Silver is arguing about......arguing....

Hmmm....

Argue about arguing or import 2097 users into an online "course" even though only about 1000 of them will ever care about it but they all need to go in because the department involved doesn't want to bother to figure out which people actually need to have access to it.

What would YOU do, Stoke? What WOULD you do?

The worst day of arguing with Banne about the cubbies or Niz about...anything... > best day at work still.

I'd bitch slap banne around some more....

Exactly.

lol... I only argue just to get under people's skin. The truth is I don't really care about anything enough to argue about it.

Wrong.

Wrong.

No no...he's actually right for once.

That's much the same reason I argue, just to see people get worked up. It's funny to see the people who think I care just because I'm bored, type quickly and actually have a working knowledge of the English language. I think the only people I've geuninely argued with online were Gryphon (not in a public arena though) and Estara.

I hope Banne is smart enough to realize this and doesn't think I actually care about football that much and is arguing in a similar "I'm bored so what the hell" fashion. I watch it sure, but I know that no matter what happens my life is more or less the same as always. However, when I deny that the Bears are the greatest team since the '72 Dolphins, I get fun pictures to look at, so that's fun for me.

I did last night's posts while waiting for the CPU to get back to my guy on the field in Madden '07. It's somewhat novel to have the game out of your hands. :) As more useless information: My player is a running back, drafted by the Patriots, first game against Buffalo gained 184 yards on the ground including a 72 yard TD in overtime to win 30-24. New England's defense sucks HARD in this game.

Like I pointed our earlier, I am a Chicago Sports Fan. We enjoy Arguing whether we are right or wrong. Like we all say Brett Far-va sucks (which although true now, does not reflect his hall of fame career), even though we all knew he was one of the greatest quarterbacks in the league and beat us on a consistant basis. We just like to argue.'


ohhh and GO BULLS!!!!!!! lol

The Bulls suck.

However, Michael Jordan was one of God's gifts to basketball...and thus he was able to lift the sad sacks of the Chicago Bulls to greatness.

As it was written, so shall it be. All praise to the Jordan.

They actually look pretty decent this year. And uhhh, Rodman? Pippen? Ron Harper? Luke Longley? 6th man of the year in TK, we had Kerr. That team was great. hehe.

Jordan ruined basketball! Now its all about ball hogging and seeing who can make the prettiest dunk. Thats why we suck and can't win the olympics anymore, hardly any of the current generation knows how to play good basketball.

Oh and Beleno's beat me pretty badly this weekend. His damn tight end and Vick destroyed my team. Even if I had played the Ravens defense which I admit I should have still would have beat me by 8 points!~

"Jordan ruined basketball!"

I officially do not value any opinion you will have on anything ever again. Jordan SAVED basketball. Without MJ, the NBA probably would have folded in the late 90's. Before Jordan, the NBA was a money losing machine.

Dane, you are officially an idiot.

Ohh and about ball hogging:
Jordan, over first 10 years: 4586 assists
Kobe over 10 year career: 3148 assists
approx. same amount of games.

Dane, youre a fag. I hate you.

Banne I ate your babies, whine about this.

I dont have any babies. And if I did, Id prefer you did eat them.

Just cause Fate is more into me than into you, dont get jealous, needle dick.

It still makes you moan!

Oh and I still think Jordan ruined basketball , maybe he saved the league and made it more lucrative, but he also spawned the current generation of ball hogs and points whores. I think it correlates directly with our reduced standing in world basketball where teams actually know how to play together. Of course the foreign competition teams do play years and years together and we just slap together a bunch of all stars and get murdalized.

exactly on int'l bball.

But youre still wrong on jordan.

I would say after Jordan left, the emergence of Iverson screwed the league.

You say that because you are from Chicago. The end.

P.S.

And ask most of the current generation NBA player's who they idolized while they were growing up and they would say MJ or a combination of players and MJ. I doubt any would say Iverson.

Actually, No. Jordan wasnt a ball hog, he just wanted the ball when it counted. Did you actually watch him play at all? Or are you just making more ignorant claims from your hovell in ND.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaactually, because I love arguing, I'll let you in on the REAL reason the NBA sucks:

Their draft and the fact that you can go into the NBA before you can legally (key word) drink.

Yep, you heard it here first.

They allow kids fresh out of high school where it IS possible to be one-man stars come into the NBA. They don't know what teamwork is like, because they never had to use it.

Compare this to the NFL where you have to play for 3 years in college to be eligible. Why do they do that? So that you don't go from a situation where you're all but unstoppable (a la Mike Vick, except Ronald Curry stomped his ass all through high school...true story) to one where you're horrendously underequipped to deal with it.

Is it perfect? No, because a lot of "football factory" schools don't ever face real competition, but it's much sounder than "Hey! Let's give an 18 year old millions of dollars! NOTHING could go wrong there!".

Discuss.

NBA Changed their rules, hehe:
All players, regardless of nationality, must be at least 19 years old during the calendar year of the draft.
A U.S. player must also be at least one year removed from the graduation of his high school class.

SO THEY ARENT FRESH OUT OF HIGHSCHOOL ANYMORE!
they are simply 1 year removed....hehe

( I think all NBA Players should need to play 2 years of NCAA Ball at LEAST before going Pro. Football players would literally DIE if they went from HS to the NFL. The impact of the hit due to strength and speed training increases dramatically at each level. Pop Warner --> High School (HUGE difference) High School ----> College (all of my friends on college football teams say its a big change. Equipment is better but the general wear and tear on the body is much worse, and hits hurt alot more) College ---------> Pro (When you are making millions of dollars a year to do nothing more to condition yourself, EVERYONE is the strongest guy. After talking to Boomer Grisby at homecoming this year, an ISU Grad who now plays for the KC Chiefs, and who happens to be cousins with one of my good friends here, the college to NFL jump is astounding. He said he wanted to pass out the first few times he got really hit. Normal Blocking takes on the feeling of hard open field tackles of college. Basically these guys condition their bodies to recieve pain.)
so in conclusion of this...uhhh...I dont know where I was going with this...

ohhh yeah. Dane is gay.

You are missing the point. He was idolized for how he scored and how often by all of the kids back then, which are the current generation of NBA players.

See? The influx of children is what ruined the NBA, not Michael Jordan...the idiots who think they're the NEXT Michael Jordan and don't care if they ruin their team to prove it.

Thankfully the NFL has a built-in "take them to the woodshed" mechanism, although they've been having more and more trouble with their players this year.

However, the "Commish" is doing a decent job of suspending players and sending clear messages about their behaviors.

His emergance and dominance directly correlate to the current generation of NBA players being cocky ball hogging bastards. That in itself proves my point.

Umm Dane, I think youre missing the point then. If thats the case isnt it Kareem's fault and Wilt's fault. They came before MJ and they are the leading scorers in NBA history. Jordan was idolized more for his heroics on the court and SPECTACULAR plays, his top scoring game was 62, in a game they lost.

So if I decided I wanted to be like Dane and shave my head and I screw it up and gash myself across the skull with a razor, this is Dane's fault?

As fun as it would be to blame you, the answer is no. Dane shaved his head like he was supposed to, carefully and without damaging himself. It's was my piss-poor attempt to emulate Dane that caused the problem, not that Dane shaved his head.

See how that works? Jordan himself is not the problem, it's the people trying to emulate him and failing that are the problem. The main reason they fail is that Jordan was not about "give me the ball", he was about doing whatever it took to win.

I have to stick up for Jordan...he's my NC homey!

I have to stick up for Jordan...he's my NC homey!

And Stoke, as one who has lived in NC since the Americas broke away from Pangaea, MUST stick up for the natives.

EDIT: Picture for those who don't know wtf Pangaea is... http://www.platetectonics.com/book/images/Pangaea.gif

damn straight.


Plus, sometime later, I'm real sure what I was thinking when I carved "Croatan" on that tree......

You were telling all the Europeans to "Grow a Tan" since they were pasty and white from living in England.

However, you were also pretty stoned at the time....

Damn those native Americans and that peace pipe....

I didnt read that right at first. I didnt see you put in "sometime later". I was going to say Roanoke and Pangaea are Slightly removed from one another. But just slightly :)

we are good at staying on topic.

What? It all ties back into football.

Michael Jordan played basketball...so did Ronald Curry. Ronald Curry blew out his knees in college, so in spite of dominating Vick four straight years in high school, Vick now makes millions of dollars as a QB and Ronald Curry is now a mostly-unknown wide receiver with the Raiders.

See? FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTBALL.

EDIT: Also, Ronald Curry played football and basketball at UNC.

True Story!

They should retire all football players and just have cheerleaders play or run around on the field for 4 quarters.

HEY!!!! WTF!!!!.... Who is that on my Avatar, and what the fuck is wrong with his face and shit!?!?!?!?

When I went /wrists I was referring to you Banne.

OMFG Fight!!!!!

NBA sucks now, Jordan rules, Dane smells, and I whomped him good. Even with a D with a negative point. Thanks bro.

Ronald Curry played football and basketball at UNC.

So did Julius Peppers.

Believe D.T. played Football and BASEBALL there my little chubby cubby. I believe we were talking Football and Basketball.

Please try to stay on topic in the future.

he played all three asstard.


From the "Official Site Of Tarheel Athlethics"
http://tarheelblue.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/052203aaa.html

During the 1960's, Talbott was the premier all-around athlete in North Carolina. He starred in football, basketball and baseball at Rocky Mount High School and then was a football and baseball standout at Carolina

Doesnt seem to mention anything about him playing basketball at UNC anywhere on the site.... I have to go with what they say.

**EDIT**
ok..you are **Partially** correct. He did play on the Junior Varsity Basketball team as a freshman but gave that up. I found that here:
http://www.theacc.com/genrel/091206aad.html. You get credit for the effort. :D