I was wondering what everyone thought about BG?

I really liked it so far. Warsong was fun. AV was also a good time.

Warsong needs to be balanced. Why on earth would a paladin play Warsong? we're the only class that cant use our powers to capture.

AV, sucked my first run w/ igg and desti, due to a bug. Now the second run w/ Cannon Chesty, estara and Dul...that was a ****ing blast. even though that chesty person couldnt keep the heals up ;)

I think it was AWESOME! I didn't go anywhere near the battlegrounds, didn't get ganked at Menethil, or Gadget either w00t!
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go-go gadget grindage!

Buli, I thought it was due to all the spam in group chat about everyone I was killing =P

haha what eva Est, i was living up to the blizzard discription of the paladin...finally...

"Wielding their mighty hammers and the strength of the Light, these holy warriors command forces in battle, continuously throwing themselves into the fray wherever the fighting is the thickest. "

substitute Hammer w/ My Sammy Stick, even though i want a hammer :(

I had a blast, just tried it again w/o a grp, not bad, but kinda lacking. Cant wait till you fools log in....i need my peeps. I propose raid night take place in AV tonight, w/ 2 (or 3) single grps

Yep I'm looking forward to it as well. Not sure if I'll be on tonight... it's Mrs. Cannonball's B-day :hatparty2 and I'm not sure what the plans are.

Warsong - would be really cool for the people from 20-50 (since they apparently segment you by levels...which is nice). I didn't like it very much because 1) Bugs kept me from being with ATF and 2) the 50+ really brought out the problem with PvP in WoW. Basically, the Alliance side lost because not enough people had run MC to have the uber equipment. Of course, maybe I'm just noticing that more since I'm about the most gear-dependent class in the game...for a class that's production isn't determined necessarily by what they're holding, might be different. Earthbind totem spam is also a bunch of crap...3 shamans just throwing them down as they ran back to the base with a druid or shaman carrying the flag in their "travel" form...completely lame since you couldn't even catch them on a mount.

Sub-50 though when there's not that gigantic disparity between equipment, probably a blast. I just think that if I wanted to play CTF, there's a hell of a lot of games out there that do it much better. Seems stupid to include a game type designed around balanced play when you run an RPG that by it's nature will be unbalanced. *shrug*

Alterac was very cool from what I saw of it. THAT is a Battleground. While I was not in the mood between various bugs and annoyances to stay in it for very long, the little bit that I was in there for was quite entertaining. I just didn't want the venom I was still feeling over all the other stuff to spoil the long-term fun. I'm usually in a bad mood when I'm doing PvP on unfair terms, and Warsong typified that for me. When I'm in a bad mood, I don't enjoy things, simple enough.

Went over to PlanetSide, was reminded what real PvP was like, and everything was all better. Nothing beats wiping out 5 TR at the back door in one fell swoop (2 Rexos, 2 MAXes and an infiltrator in the span of a minute :D ah, the joy of player ability making a major difference).

Kinda wish Blizzard on Warsong would do something to make the sides a bit more even at the 50+ level. I mean, yeah, you can spout "oh it's about the teams" all you want, but if one team has MC/BWL gear and the other team doesn't...well, assuming even remotely even levels of teamwork that first team is going to win quite easily.

I'm happy with Alterac tho.

Let's just not forget about scheduled Raid nights.....

Well, a once-in-a-while "raid" into a BG would be a nice altenative for those times when we're missing some key classes or don't have enough people. However, I agree that once the "newness" has worn off of BGs that they should not be superceding the instance raids.

Arguably, since every lamer horde in the known world is practicing being lame elsewhere, this might be the opportune time to do places like BRS which are normally infested with Horde...

I to liked the BG's and also feel that Warsong is fun but could use some tweaks to make it a little more even. Alterac was a blast with the group. Well don't run away from me and I would keep ya alive Buli :p and there was nothing I could do when they were at the graveyard.

We won't forget about Raid Nights just got to understand new content has come out also so if we miss it once its ok. We have been doing great with the raid nights. It would be fun to get a group if we don't have enough to do a raid to get as much together and hit Alterac.

1) BGs are really fun.
2) I think warsong is melee class dependant.btw shamman ghost wolf is dispellable
3) Alterac is bugged as hell, though we managed to kill the horde's damned ice elemental
4) Would rather farm Diremaul for my gear, though alterac has a really nice neck piece for honored rewards.

so, ill be spamming to see if ne1 wants to go to diremaul alot more often now, until i get my gear that is. otherwise u'll prob find me in alterac.

des~

btw shamman ghost wolf is dispellable


Ghost wolf isn't nearly as much of a problem as the earthbind totems that can be spammed when there's multiple shamans...especially if warsong is melee dependent that's a real killer. ;)

Horde tactic that I'm still coming up with viable answer for...Tauren druid in travel form being guarded by 3 shamans spamming earthbind.

Actually not even counting the new content, we have not had a raid on the last 4 raid times due to not enough logging on. Now with the new content we have the peeps there, they are just in the BG. Don't get me wrong, the BG is ok but it is not the end all be all of the game. As a matter of fact it can get boring rather quickly. After about an hour of it and having to spend several gold in repairs/food/drink/bandages etc... it can get old even quicker. Not to mention the bugs with our pets not rezzing or they do rez but they keep losing happyness. For me it can get very expensive.

heh you'll love some of the alterac quests, the repeatable ones. if i remember right u get ~1g per turn in. each turnin is like one kill/loot. so more u slaughter the more cash/rep you get.

I posted a new thread before I saw this one. Attention span something something...

Needless to say, I really dig BG. Check my thread to see how much hunters don;t suck in AV.

12 days and i will resub to Wow to play with you guys, i got 8 hours of practise this weekend and next week end i got a game so. good luck and dont lose to much becuase im not there ;)

sometimes i wish i had epic loot from MC or Ony..then i look around at the guild and change my mind. Loot is for the weak..though i attempted to kill this one troll in alterac valley today..got my butt kicked by his epic priest staff (the quest one) and prophacy gear.

also Alterac is the buggiest horde centered pos ever..but we still love it.

I don't think you get the gold after the first turn-in tho Desti, otherwise i'd have left with 240 or so instead of 228 (which was only 2g more than what i went in with). Yeah, it's a series of different turn-ins so you can get like 3g from a BG, but that's where hunters must use the high-end ammo, so I'm sure Estara and Igg are shelling out 10g or so to do a raid-length session.

One things that annoys me: Deaths in BGs are counted towards your "real world" rez timer. Since I have yet to leave a BG that wasn't camped, that's a bit ridiculous that there's a 4-5 minute timer. Just letting you know, when you want to leave the BG, it's pretty much hearth only.

actually, you can leave the BG easily by typing in /afk
It will immediatly take you back to the instance zone in point on the outside.

That's where the campers are Estara. ;) Problem is the Horde who stand outside of the entryways (beyond the guards of course) who just wait for people to come out. Since all your BGs deaths count towards your rez timer apparently, you will be waiting a long time before you can even attempt to rez. If they're still there and they kill you again...guess what happens.

Literally, 4 minute rez timer coming out of AV...followed by a 5 minute one when I got to SS to find the gryph master dead. That's a bit silly IMO. Blizz needs to get on that.

Alterac was really fun for the first hour or so...but it really illustrates how much the Alliance sucks. :( People are too used to watching fights and not taking part in them. Congrats to Stang though for being the "numbah 2 killah" (for killing blows) in AV when she left. :) We won't reflect on a druid being a major killer and attribute it instead to Stang's mad skillz. ;)

Hopefully the idiots who just want to gawk and gape at the new zone will leave soon and people who understand how to play will be left. :)

Also, I think now the guild raids should take precedence over BGs. You had 3 days to try em out (well...you will have had), time to get the gear to make us better in them. Tired of seeing Horde warriors with an extra 1k HP on me because of their gear. >_<

However, should we make Saturday a BGs day like we suggested back "in the day"? I know Gryph and Stang use Saturday as their "Sanity Day", but just thinking...

Don't worry we will do Raids again you just got to remember NEW content is out and everyone is going to be playing it for awhile. Try to get something started or do the icky and do pick ups but hang in there we will get back into doing raids. Im going to try to get a raid going for sure this Fri. so help out.

I don't think for right now we need to set up a day for BG's right now.

Personally I dont really see this as new content. Its still the same ol PVP we been doing, just in a new zone. Granted I haven't tried the capture the flag yet and I will soon. The only really good thing about the BG's coming out is the fact that the ganking in the rest of the upper 50's zones has dropped ALOT. I dont know about the rest of you, but I absolutely almost refuse to do a pickup group for something that is as important as the end game zones. Of course my armor shows that to hehe.